2013年04月04日の日記

2013-04-04

http://anond.hatelabo.jp/20130404152456

可能性1・それぞれ別の奴が言ってる

可能性2・ただの荒らし

http://anond.hatelabo.jp/20130404152926

ただの書き間違いならいいんです。

把握までボンヤリしてたら話するのが面倒すぎて勘弁だけど。

http://anond.hatelabo.jp/20130404151615

投稿した直後に「ブクマってなんだよ」と自分で気付いて何カ所か元記事修正しちゃったので誤りのご指摘が入れ違いになってしまったようです。なんかすみません。

http://anond.hatelabo.jp/20130404152054

いやいやさすがに何言ってんだおめーは。

・お前が言ってる「有名な時代」って単に日本で人気のある時代のことじゃねーか。

・有名な時代(?)があるかどうかと歴史連続性は関係ない。

それとは別に

今ある「中国」が3000年なり4000年なりの連続した歴史があるっつーのはたしかフィクションだが。

http://anond.hatelabo.jp/20130404145747

30女はいらない18歳なら結婚してやるといいながら

若いけど結婚してくれませんという話には

若い女とは結婚したくないとレスが来るしどうすれば

中国三千年の歴史っていうけどさ

有名な歴史って春秋戦国三国時代だけじゃないか

特定の年代歴史が有名なのは分かったけどそれだけで三千年の歴史があるとは極論すぎる。

「感動」に水をさせるのはネットならでは

横だが俺が答えさせてもらいます

http://anond.hatelabo.jp/20130404142117


元増田の文章を見て「こんな風に無条件では愛してもらえなかった子供も、

無条件で子供を愛せずに悩んでいた(いる)親も沢山いるんだろうな」とは思ったけど、

わざわざ「恵まれた親のエゴ乙」と書いて幸せな家庭の親の心に

いや、そこじゃなくて。

例えば俺はとてもいい家庭環境で育ててもらいました。

両親の仲はよく、愛情たっぷりで、教育資本も高く、五体満足です。

いい家庭過ぎてちょっとおぼっちゃまみたいな部分が出来てて、欠点として自覚してます

そういう無条件の愛を受けて育った俺から見ても、「この話」、元増田の文は気持ち悪いです。


子供を愛してるのが気持ち悪いんじゃなくて、

自己陶酔っぷりが気持ち悪いよねという平板な突っ込みです。

出産人生に対する姿勢の問題ではなく、ポエムの技巧やセンスの問題です。

俺はあれは大人の男が書く文ではないと思う。

学歴とは無関係に。


「第一子誕生おめでとう!」という気持ちが無いのではなくて、

「それはそれとしてお前のこのポエムひでーよ」と言ってるだけ。

もちろん元増田リアル知人で対面でこのポエムを渡されたら「ひでーよ」とは言いません。

水を差さないように精一杯合わせると思います

俺はそれぐらいの愛想はある人間です。


けれどここはワンクッション置いた匿名掲示板なので、

「おまえの自己陶酔ぶりきついよ」とマジレスをするわけです。

お互いに匿名である利点というのはまさにここでは無いでしょうか。


元増田リアル知人にこのポエムを見せて、

「すごい陶酔だね…」と言われたらショックが強すぎると思います

所詮互いに名前も知らない特定できない他人同士だからこそ率直な感想が言える。


彼が今とても晴れがましい人生ステージに立っている事と

彼の自意識がやや幼稚であることとか彼のポエム寒いこととかは何の関係も有りません。


彼と彼の第一子と奥さんに祝福あれ!

しかしそのポエムは個人的に気持ち悪くて反吐ます

ということ。

「彼の人生呪詛を投げるのか!」という反論はトンチンカンすぎて困ります

「いやこのポエムセンス最高やんけ!」という反論なら噛みあっており受けて立ちますが。


「このブクマの主張が受け入れられないことを、ブクマトラバで『元増田本人に対して』意思表示せずにおれなかった人は、荒んだ人生歩むほかないのだろうな」と思う。

考え方の違いかもしれませんが、

俺は少なくともシラケ主義や嫌がらせで水をかけて楽しんでるのではありません。

元増田自意識がもう少し発達していて、ポエム技術が巧みであれば、賛同・賞賛したと思います


元増田人生や喜びの価値と、

そこから出力される作文の出来不出来は、

なんら関係が有りません。

ここを混同する人間は非理性的だと思います


「この読書感想文はクソ」と言っても

題材にされた本を腐した事にはならないはず。


(ってーか、賞賛してる人だって無理してるだけじゃねーのか?

 単純にあの文を読んで違和感とか気持ち悪さを覚えなかったか?少しも?

 俺にはどっかから拾ってきた翻訳文のコピペのようにすら見えるが。

 はてな民が普段叩いてるtwitterの感動小話と大差なくね?)

http://anond.hatelabo.jp/20130404122900

サイトよりもお見合いパーティーとかを狙う

30過ぎのおっさんを狙う

以上を意識すれば結婚もすぐできんじゃね?

サイトなんて結局出会い系だろうし

http://anond.hatelabo.jp/20130404150059

元増田が「ホーラ子育てはこんなにも素晴らしいよ! だからみんなもやるといいよ! そう思わない奴なんか人間愛情を理解できないバカだね!」みたいな主張をしてたなら、自分も同じように考えたと思う。

でも自分の子供に宛てて親バカっぷりを発露しまくってるだけだったから、余計なこと言うまでもないやと感じた。

子育てに疲れた人があれ読んで「そういえば子供が生まれた頃は同じ事考えてたな」と思い返して、子供に対して少し優しくなれることがあるならそれはいいことじゃないかな、とも思うし。

http://anond.hatelabo.jp/20130404150059

そこは価値観の違いかねえ。

俺は、恵まれた温室育ちで世間知らずなために想像力が欠如していてお花畑なことを平気でほざく人(たとえば鳩山とか)が大嫌いなので、そういう人を見ると「現実を知っとけ」と言いたくなる。

http://anond.hatelabo.jp/20130404145529

前述の通り子供欲しくないし、お世辞にもあまりいい家庭に育ったわけじゃないので、恵まれてるっつうよりは無駄に年取って日和っちゃってるって方がまだ近いかも。

「子作りは醜い親のエゴだ、美化するな」つう人の気持ちもわからなくはないんだけど、自分の中でこれを親の立場人間に言うことがあるとしたら、それは「出産子育ては素晴らしいこと!」と吹聴するくせに子供をいい加減に育てて不幸にしているような馬鹿親だとか、何でもかんでも人口増やしさえすればそれが正しいことだと信じ切ってるバカに対してだけで、子供を愛してちゃんと向き合ってる親に言っても意味ないと思うんだよね。

だって嫉妬の発露とか不幸自慢になっちゃうだけで恥ずかしいじゃん。

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http://anond.hatelabo.jp/20130404142117

つーかマジで何の意味あんの。

そう思うのは、君が少なくとも元増田と同じくらいには恵まれた立場いるからでしょう。

強いて言うなら、マリアントワネットがわざわざ平民の町に下りてきて「あーパンが美味しいわ!渋谷ヴィロンは最高ね!三茶シニフィアンもいいわ!ワインと合うわね~このラフィット・ロートシルトとか。今日のデザートはジャン・ポール・エヴァンしましょう」とか言い出したら何か言ってやりたくなるって感じかなあ。

http://anond.hatelabo.jp/20130404144316

結婚したいのでフリーター」は今日びさすがに重たいよ。多分同年代の男の大多数から寄生願望丸出しと思われて逃げられるんじゃないか

「腰掛けでもいったんきちんと働いた経歴のある人に、出産育児の間は仕事やめるかセーブしてもらって、子供がある程度育ったら婚前のキャリアを活かして(正社員は難しいだろうから、できれば非正規くらいで)もう一度働きに出てほしい」ってのが、おおよそ今の結婚適齢期の男(20〜30代前半)の平均的な結婚観だと思うよ。

いわゆるDQN層は低収入なのに意外と保守的価値観が強くて、年収200万そこらでも「俺が働いて妻子を守るのが男の甲斐性!」みたいなすげえ考え方をしていたりするけど、増田としてはそういう層はやっぱ嫌だろうしね。

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http://anond.hatelabo.jp/20130404144535

なるほど主婦を認められないのは男である場合低所得者

女の視点からするとキャリア積んだ小梨仕事面でしか勝てるところないからか

http://anond.hatelabo.jp/20130403213122

20代前半でさんざん婚活に失敗したあげく30越で結婚しましたが・・・

http://anond.hatelabo.jp/20130404135608

確かに。

同じ年収で35と25の人なら親は25の方と結婚しろっていうし若い男の人の方がむしろチャンスだったのね・・・

女は若いほうがいいというより若い男は若い女を得られるチャンス。の間違いか

ダイソン掃除機の性能が分からない

消費者庁の「吸込仕事率」のデータを挙げて、鬼の首を取ったようにダイソンが叩かれているんだけど、

一方で、同じデータによると、ごみの除去率では優秀な結果を残しているみたいなんだよね。

ダイソンもそのあたりを認識しているのか「吸込仕事率ではなくゴミ集塵率を重視すべき」と主張しているようで。

口コミを眺めても、なんだか国産製品信奉者とダイソン信奉者の争いになっているみたいで、

実際の性能がよく分からなくなっているのが苛立たしい。

http://anond.hatelabo.jp/20130404130859

今23ですよ。

仕事結婚したいのでフリータ。

相変わらず婚活は続けてる

でも結婚しようとか言うと男逃げていきますね。

一応名目見合い系なんだけどな

http://anond.hatelabo.jp/20130404135609

自分子供が欲しくないので元増田の気持ちに手放しでは賛同できなかったし、元増田の文章を見て「こんな風に無条件では愛してもらえなかった子供も、無条件で子供を愛せずに悩んでいた(いる)親も沢山いるんだろうな」とは思ったけど、わざわざ「恵まれた親のエゴ乙」と書いて幸せな家庭の親の心に水をさす気にはなれなかったから黙っていたよ。

自分的には「この増田の主張が受け入れられない人は荒んだ人生歩んでね」というより「この増田の主張が受け入れられないことを、ブコメトラバで『元増田本人に対して』意思表示せずにおれなかった人は、荒んだ人生歩むほかないのだろうな」と思う。

他人を好きになって喜んでいる人の気持ちに「繁殖欲に起因して脳が快楽物質を出しているだけの現象をやたら美化しておめでたい人ですね」「自慢乙」と余計な事を言って何の意味があるのか分からないし。つーかマジで何の意味あんの。

http://anond.hatelabo.jp/20130404141352

横だが

「荒んだ人生」にネガティブ意味は無いだとか

当該ブコメに攻撃的なニュアンスが無いだとか

そんな無茶苦茶言い訳は誰に言ったって怪訝な顔されると思うぞ…。元増田じゃなくても。

猫の行動の意味を教えて

うちの猫は、私のそばへ来て伸びをする

特に起き抜けなどの、まあ普通に伸びをしておかしくないタイミングで、起きたその場所でなく私の足元までわざわざ移動してから、ぐーんと伸びる

これはどういう意味

 

 

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大の大人が揃って何やってるんですか

すこしは真面目に仕事してください

き、急にモテてうろたえてる訳じゃないんだからね!

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