https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/sep/30/sunken-chinese-submarine-was-new-hybrid-nuclear-co/
By Bill Gertz - The Washington Times - Monday, September 30, 2024
Defense analysts at the Pentagon assess the new Zhou-class attack submarine that sank near Wuhan is “a new class of nuclear submarine that is similar in size to PLAN conventionally powered submarines, but with a small nuclear reactor,” a U.S. defense official said, speaking on background.
その可能性はある
The new Zhou-class submarine was confirmed by the Pentagon last week after one of the boats was seen in satellite images partially submerged beside the pier as the result of an unknown mishap.
「partially submerged beside the pier」な衛星画像はない、存在するのは艀船の写った写真だけ
浅い長江で沈んだのなら艦影くらいは写ると思うし、あのでかいのを釣り上げるのは時間かかるからその画像があるはずだが、それがないのでずっと腑に落ちない
“As such, we do not know if the submarine reactor was fueled at the time of incident, or if it is going to be relocated to a known nuclear-certified facility for its initial fueling, such as Huludao shipyard, which has built all previous PLA] navy nuclear submarine classes,” the official said.
後者はねえだろ
進水後にはるばる遼寧省まで運んで核燃料入れるとかは99.999%ねえだろ
本当にU.S. defense officialなの?
https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2024/10/chinas-sunken-nuclear-sub-was-likely-nothing-sort/400001/
By J. Michael Dahm and Peter W. Singer - October 2, 2024 02:04 PM ET
The ICBM test reminds us of a similar media frenzy sparked by a dubious claim earlier this year. In January, Western media aired claims by unnamed U.S. officials that corrupt PLA officers had filled their missiles with water.
The reporting seemed to be unaware that the Chinese term 灌水 (guànshuǐ), which does mean “to pour water into” but also references unscrupulous butchers adding water to meat to increase its weight and price, used metaphorically to refer to corruption.
Yes, the PLA Rocket Force has experienced a crisis of corruption. No, they do not fill their missiles with water to cover up that corruption.
そうなんよな
あのときも匿名の国防総省関係者が情報源で日本のメディアでも無批判で報道されたんだよね
「ミサイルに燃料ではなく水注入? 汚職疑惑の中国ロケット軍 米報道」って
This story also underlines a larger problem in Western media reporting on China’s military in recent years: too often, it swings between two extremes that portray the PLA as either comically inept or ten feet tall.
それなあ
わからん🤣
沈んだのは本当としてもほんとに原子力?
武昌造船所には渤海造船所にあるような核燃料保存施設が確認されてなくない?
でも通常動力型潜水艦に小型モジュール炉をディーゼルエンジンの代わりに積むとかいう話もあるし、だったら原子炉を他で作って持ってきたとかも?
前回と大して変わらないなあ
正直眉唾っぽーい
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